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Queenzone had the rest of all caps lady email
Over on Queenzone, Daniel Nester tracked down the whole email on Wikileaks and posted it. The discussion runs to 3 pages so far. Here is a fuller text of the leaked email I posted in the previous post.
Notes from Sony head, pasted below. From here: https://wikileaks.org/sony/emails/emailid/148797
Fwd: freddy
Begin forwarded message:
From: "Pascal, Amy"
P1:ISNT IT THE IDEA THAT HIS WHOLE FAMILY HAD TO LEAVE ZANZIBAR NOT THAT HIS PARENTS SENT HIM TO SCHOOL IN INDIA .OTHER KIDS SHIPPED OFF TO BOARDING SCHOOL . DOESNT GIVE YOU THE FEELING THAT HE WAS A REFUGEE AS WE DISCUSSED
THE OPENING OF PETER MORGANS SCRIPT IS STILL THE BEST WITH HIM SNEAKING OUT OF THE ORDINARY HOUSE AND NEIGHBORHOOD FHE GREW UP IN AND TRANSFORMING INTO THE FUR COAT EYELINER SKIN TIGHT OUTFIT BECOMING THE OUTRAGEOUS CHARACTER HE REALLY WAS ....
WHAT WAS IT ABOUT SMILE THAAT MADE HIM CONSTANTLY GO TO SEE THEM TAHT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW
ALSO THE WAY HE TALKS THEM INTO LETTING HIM IN THE BAND TELLS US WHO HE WAS IN A GREAT WAY
AND WHEN BRIAN SAYS WE NEED A SINER... FREDDY SAID" OH NO MY DEARS YOU NEED SO MUCH MORE THAN THAT.
ALSO WHAT FREDDY REALLY DID SAY ABOUT HIMSELF FROM THE BEGINNING IS IM NOT GONNA BE A STAER IM GONNA BE A LEGEND WEAND WE ARE GETTING NONE OF THAT IN THE SCRIPT
P5: THE BIOPIC STANDARD OF THE FATHER WHO DOESNT UNDERSTAND AND WANTS HIM TO GET A NORMAL JOB IS TOTALLY UNNECESSARY IN THIS MOVIE WE MUST HAVE MORE ORIGINAL THINGS TO DO BESIDE THAT....THE POINT ISNT THAT THEY KNEW FREDDY WAS A POPSTAR " ITWAS THAT HE DID EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO PROVE HE WAS WHAT THEY WANTED HIM TO BE...."NORMAL;" IT WAS ABOUT HIS LIFE NOT HIS PROFESSION....THIS SETS US DOWN THE TOTALLY WRONG PATH
P6: WHY DO WE NEED FREDDY IN ART SCHOOL BORED AND DOODLING....IT WAS BETTER WHEN THE OPENING OF THE MOVIE WAS HIM SNEAKING OUT OF THE HOUSE....THEY HAD TO SNEAK OUT OF THEOIR COUNTRY....HE HAS TO SNEEK OUT OF HIS HOUSE....SECRETS WITH IN SECRETS
P9: FREEDY WAS ALL A TWITTER WHEN HE SAW BRIAN MAY OF SMILE....COME ON
P12: ANYTIME YOU PUT JIMI HENDRIX AND TIDI IN A MOVIE YOUR ASKING FOR TROUBLE AND ITS GONNA FEEL AS LAME AS THE JULIE TAYMORE MOVIE I HAVE YET TO SEE SOMEONE DO THIS VERSION OF THE PERIOD SO THAT IT DOESNT FEEL LAME
P15: THEN WE CUT RIGHT INTO HIM BEING PART OF THE BAND WITHOUT FORESHADOWING WHAT THAT IS GONNA MEAN FOR ALL OF THEM FOR THE FUTURE THEY WERE GONNA BREAK UP CUZ TIM LEFT BUT HTEY DECIDE TO STAY TOGETHER BECAUSE FREEDY JOINS THEM?AND IMMEDIATELY
WE CUT TO 1973....ZIGGY STARDUST HAD ALREADY COME OUT AND GLAM ROCK WAS IN FULL SWING THEN WHY DOES FREDDY STICK OPUT SO MUCH IN OUR STORY
P20: WE DONT REALLY GET Q SENSE OF MARY AND WHO SHE WAS IN THE WORLD OR TOO HIM AND DID
SHE THINK HE WAS STRAIGH. DID HE THINK HE WAS STRAIGHT? WHAT WQS THERE LIFE TOGETHER WAS SHE A FORMER GROUPIE OR HOT MILKY DRINK BEFORE BED TYPE WE DONT GET A SENSE OF HER AT ALL
P25: THE SCENE WITH NEWCASTLE WHAT IS TH EPOINT OF IT HOW CAN WE HAVE S CENE WTIH THIS KIND OF CONFLICT IN IT WHEN WE DONT EVEN KNOW WHO THIS CHARACTER IS OR WHY THEM GOING ON WITHOUT HIM MEANS ANYTHING TO TLLING THIS STORY
P26; HOW IS HE USING BR IN THE MOVIE ....IT WAS THERE FIRST HIOT ON THE UK CHARTS I THINK...BUT DONT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE SONG IS INFLUENCED BY HIS LOVE OF ALL KINDS OF MUSIC
HOW HE ARANGED A MEETING WTH MONSTERRAT CABELLE(HIS IDOL) WHICH WOULD BE A GREAT SCENE...HE HAD SO MANY MUSICALL INFLUENCES TAHT IS WHAT MADE QUEEN SO DIFFERENT FROM EVERYONE ELSE
ALSO THER IS NO UNDERSTANDING OF HIS VOICE IN THIS MOVIE WHICH WAS THE WHOLE THING ...THAT HE HAD RAW NODULES OR SOMETHING ...WHERE IS ALL THE INTERESTING STUFF PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW
IT WOULD ALSO BE GREAT TO HAVE A SCENE WHERE HE AND BOWIE PREFORM UNDER PRESSURE ....ONE OF THE GREATEST DUETS IN ROCK HISTORY IN MY OPINION
THERE IS TOO MUCH STUFF ABOUT THE BAND AND NOT ENOUGH STUFF ABOUT FREDDY NOW AND ITS A PROBLEM CUZ THE BAND IS A BIG SO WHAT NOTHING DIFFERENT ABOUT THAT CONFLICT EITHER
WE ALSO DONT GET THE WHOLD THING ABOUT HIM BEING AN HUGE ON STAGE BUT SHY OFF STAGE EIF ...THATS INTERESTING
AND HOW MUCH HE LOVED WHAT HE DID ...LIKE MICHAEL JACKSON BEING ON STAGE WAAS EVERYTHING
AS THE FAMOUS REFERENCE TO HIM IN KURT COBAINS SUCIDE NOTE....
ALSO WHY ARENT WE USING BR IAS THE FRAMING DEVICE FOR THE MOVIE WHICH IS THE BEST IDEA
P33: WE NEED TO FIND SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO SAY INT HE SCENE WITHERE THE LAME RECORD COMPANY EXECUTIVES DONT WANT TO PLAY THE SONG....IS THERE A BETTER ANGEL HERE
P36: WHY DOES JIM WANT HIM TO HAVE PAUL AS HIS ASSISTANT DID HE THINK MARY WA GONNA MAKE A ORI=OBLEM FOR THE BAND BUT IN CUTTING HER OUT HAD NO IDEA WHO HE WAS BRINGING IN? WHAT IS THE POINT OF IT IN THE STORY ...ITS GOT TO BE A CLEARER NARRATIVE
P40: ARE WE SUPPOSE TO THINK THIS IS HIS FIRST SEX FWITH A MAN? IS THAT TRUE?
P38: PARENTS SCENE IS BETTER IN MORGAN DRAFT
PPP40ISH: IS THIS TRIP TO NEW YORK WHERE HE MET JOHN? WAS THAT BEFORE HE OFFICIALLY BROKE OFF WITH MARY?
AHT ARC OF FREDDYS RELATIONSHIPS ARE HARD TO FLFOOW....MARY AND PAUL AND JOHN HUTTON I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THEM BETTER
I GUESS THAT WOULD BE ERIC BUT I CANT DISTINGUISH WHO HE IS CLOSE TO WHEN AND WHAT IS MOTIVATING HIS BEHAVIOR
WHAT HAPPENS TO THE SID VICIOUS SCENE WHERE ITS CLEAR FREEDY HAD NO IDEA FWHATS HAPPENING IN THE WORLD OUTSIDE OF HIS WWN WORLD
P50: THERE ARE MONTAGE OF SCENES WITH TH BAND ADN TOURING AND TALKING AND NOTHING IS REALLY HAPPENING EXCEPT THAT FREEDY IS GETTING MORE AND MORE FUCKED UP AND MARY GETS A BOYFRIENDS AND PAUL KEEPS EVERYONE AWAY AND THE ANIMOSITY IS GROWING BETWEEN THE BAND
76: THE STORY OF FREDDYS SOLO ALBUM HAS TO BE PART OF THE STORY BUT ISNT IT ...THINGS WERE AT ODDS WITH THE BAND...HE MADE A SOLO ALBUM..IT DIDNT WORK...AND THEY GOT BACK TO GETHER...IS THERE ANOTHER IDEA HERE...DID HE LEARN HE NEEDED THEM AND DIDNT WANT TO ...WHST IS THE EMOTIONAL STORY WE ARE GOING TO CONNECT TO HERE
99: THERE WAS A BEAUTIFUL MOMENT IN PETERS SCRIPT WHERE WHEN FREDDY TAKES A WALK AND SEES THAT EVERYONE IN LONDON IS LISTENING TO THE FOOTAGE OF THE LIVE AID CONCERT AND HE REALIZES SOMETHING PROFOUND....AND THE MUSIC OF ALL THE BANDS PLAYS OVER HIM DRESSING DRIVING AND ARRIVING AT THE CONCERT
IT WAS ALSO FABULOUS THE WAY THE AFTER THE CONCERT ENDS HE SAYS THE WRLD FINALLY SAW US WE CAN NEVER QUIT AND THEN YOU GUT TO HIM GETTTING AN AIDS TEST ANDAND THE REST IS.......YOU DONT NEED THE FIVE YEARS LATER AND THE MORGAN DIALOGUE WAS 100 TIMES BETTER WE NEED TO COLLASP TIME AND HAVE OUR LAST IMAGE OF HIM BE AT THAT CONCERT FINALLY SHOWING THE WORLD JUST HOW AMAZING HE WAS.... THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING MYTHIC AND WE HAVE LOST IT
God Save My Queen and God Save My Queen II | Soft Skull Press | http://www.danielnester.com
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I left Nester's link in because I like his Queen poetry books.
Although this Hollywood person can't type or spell, her critiques don't sound wrong.
Notes from Sony head, pasted below. From here: https://wikileaks.org/sony/emails/emailid/148797
Fwd: freddy
Begin forwarded message:
From: "Pascal, Amy"
P1:ISNT IT THE IDEA THAT HIS WHOLE FAMILY HAD TO LEAVE ZANZIBAR NOT THAT HIS PARENTS SENT HIM TO SCHOOL IN INDIA .OTHER KIDS SHIPPED OFF TO BOARDING SCHOOL . DOESNT GIVE YOU THE FEELING THAT HE WAS A REFUGEE AS WE DISCUSSED
THE OPENING OF PETER MORGANS SCRIPT IS STILL THE BEST WITH HIM SNEAKING OUT OF THE ORDINARY HOUSE AND NEIGHBORHOOD FHE GREW UP IN AND TRANSFORMING INTO THE FUR COAT EYELINER SKIN TIGHT OUTFIT BECOMING THE OUTRAGEOUS CHARACTER HE REALLY WAS ....
WHAT WAS IT ABOUT SMILE THAAT MADE HIM CONSTANTLY GO TO SEE THEM TAHT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW
ALSO THE WAY HE TALKS THEM INTO LETTING HIM IN THE BAND TELLS US WHO HE WAS IN A GREAT WAY
AND WHEN BRIAN SAYS WE NEED A SINER... FREDDY SAID" OH NO MY DEARS YOU NEED SO MUCH MORE THAN THAT.
ALSO WHAT FREDDY REALLY DID SAY ABOUT HIMSELF FROM THE BEGINNING IS IM NOT GONNA BE A STAER IM GONNA BE A LEGEND WEAND WE ARE GETTING NONE OF THAT IN THE SCRIPT
P5: THE BIOPIC STANDARD OF THE FATHER WHO DOESNT UNDERSTAND AND WANTS HIM TO GET A NORMAL JOB IS TOTALLY UNNECESSARY IN THIS MOVIE WE MUST HAVE MORE ORIGINAL THINGS TO DO BESIDE THAT....THE POINT ISNT THAT THEY KNEW FREDDY WAS A POPSTAR " ITWAS THAT HE DID EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO PROVE HE WAS WHAT THEY WANTED HIM TO BE...."NORMAL;" IT WAS ABOUT HIS LIFE NOT HIS PROFESSION....THIS SETS US DOWN THE TOTALLY WRONG PATH
P6: WHY DO WE NEED FREDDY IN ART SCHOOL BORED AND DOODLING....IT WAS BETTER WHEN THE OPENING OF THE MOVIE WAS HIM SNEAKING OUT OF THE HOUSE....THEY HAD TO SNEAK OUT OF THEOIR COUNTRY....HE HAS TO SNEEK OUT OF HIS HOUSE....SECRETS WITH IN SECRETS
P9: FREEDY WAS ALL A TWITTER WHEN HE SAW BRIAN MAY OF SMILE....COME ON
P12: ANYTIME YOU PUT JIMI HENDRIX AND TIDI IN A MOVIE YOUR ASKING FOR TROUBLE AND ITS GONNA FEEL AS LAME AS THE JULIE TAYMORE MOVIE I HAVE YET TO SEE SOMEONE DO THIS VERSION OF THE PERIOD SO THAT IT DOESNT FEEL LAME
P15: THEN WE CUT RIGHT INTO HIM BEING PART OF THE BAND WITHOUT FORESHADOWING WHAT THAT IS GONNA MEAN FOR ALL OF THEM FOR THE FUTURE THEY WERE GONNA BREAK UP CUZ TIM LEFT BUT HTEY DECIDE TO STAY TOGETHER BECAUSE FREEDY JOINS THEM?AND IMMEDIATELY
WE CUT TO 1973....ZIGGY STARDUST HAD ALREADY COME OUT AND GLAM ROCK WAS IN FULL SWING THEN WHY DOES FREDDY STICK OPUT SO MUCH IN OUR STORY
P20: WE DONT REALLY GET Q SENSE OF MARY AND WHO SHE WAS IN THE WORLD OR TOO HIM AND DID
SHE THINK HE WAS STRAIGH. DID HE THINK HE WAS STRAIGHT? WHAT WQS THERE LIFE TOGETHER WAS SHE A FORMER GROUPIE OR HOT MILKY DRINK BEFORE BED TYPE WE DONT GET A SENSE OF HER AT ALL
P25: THE SCENE WITH NEWCASTLE WHAT IS TH EPOINT OF IT HOW CAN WE HAVE S CENE WTIH THIS KIND OF CONFLICT IN IT WHEN WE DONT EVEN KNOW WHO THIS CHARACTER IS OR WHY THEM GOING ON WITHOUT HIM MEANS ANYTHING TO TLLING THIS STORY
P26; HOW IS HE USING BR IN THE MOVIE ....IT WAS THERE FIRST HIOT ON THE UK CHARTS I THINK...BUT DONT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE SONG IS INFLUENCED BY HIS LOVE OF ALL KINDS OF MUSIC
HOW HE ARANGED A MEETING WTH MONSTERRAT CABELLE(HIS IDOL) WHICH WOULD BE A GREAT SCENE...HE HAD SO MANY MUSICALL INFLUENCES TAHT IS WHAT MADE QUEEN SO DIFFERENT FROM EVERYONE ELSE
ALSO THER IS NO UNDERSTANDING OF HIS VOICE IN THIS MOVIE WHICH WAS THE WHOLE THING ...THAT HE HAD RAW NODULES OR SOMETHING ...WHERE IS ALL THE INTERESTING STUFF PEOPLE WANT TO KNOW
IT WOULD ALSO BE GREAT TO HAVE A SCENE WHERE HE AND BOWIE PREFORM UNDER PRESSURE ....ONE OF THE GREATEST DUETS IN ROCK HISTORY IN MY OPINION
THERE IS TOO MUCH STUFF ABOUT THE BAND AND NOT ENOUGH STUFF ABOUT FREDDY NOW AND ITS A PROBLEM CUZ THE BAND IS A BIG SO WHAT NOTHING DIFFERENT ABOUT THAT CONFLICT EITHER
WE ALSO DONT GET THE WHOLD THING ABOUT HIM BEING AN HUGE ON STAGE BUT SHY OFF STAGE EIF ...THATS INTERESTING
AND HOW MUCH HE LOVED WHAT HE DID ...LIKE MICHAEL JACKSON BEING ON STAGE WAAS EVERYTHING
AS THE FAMOUS REFERENCE TO HIM IN KURT COBAINS SUCIDE NOTE....
ALSO WHY ARENT WE USING BR IAS THE FRAMING DEVICE FOR THE MOVIE WHICH IS THE BEST IDEA
P33: WE NEED TO FIND SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO SAY INT HE SCENE WITHERE THE LAME RECORD COMPANY EXECUTIVES DONT WANT TO PLAY THE SONG....IS THERE A BETTER ANGEL HERE
P36: WHY DOES JIM WANT HIM TO HAVE PAUL AS HIS ASSISTANT DID HE THINK MARY WA GONNA MAKE A ORI=OBLEM FOR THE BAND BUT IN CUTTING HER OUT HAD NO IDEA WHO HE WAS BRINGING IN? WHAT IS THE POINT OF IT IN THE STORY ...ITS GOT TO BE A CLEARER NARRATIVE
P40: ARE WE SUPPOSE TO THINK THIS IS HIS FIRST SEX FWITH A MAN? IS THAT TRUE?
P38: PARENTS SCENE IS BETTER IN MORGAN DRAFT
PPP40ISH: IS THIS TRIP TO NEW YORK WHERE HE MET JOHN? WAS THAT BEFORE HE OFFICIALLY BROKE OFF WITH MARY?
AHT ARC OF FREDDYS RELATIONSHIPS ARE HARD TO FLFOOW....MARY AND PAUL AND JOHN HUTTON I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THEM BETTER
I GUESS THAT WOULD BE ERIC BUT I CANT DISTINGUISH WHO HE IS CLOSE TO WHEN AND WHAT IS MOTIVATING HIS BEHAVIOR
WHAT HAPPENS TO THE SID VICIOUS SCENE WHERE ITS CLEAR FREEDY HAD NO IDEA FWHATS HAPPENING IN THE WORLD OUTSIDE OF HIS WWN WORLD
P50: THERE ARE MONTAGE OF SCENES WITH TH BAND ADN TOURING AND TALKING AND NOTHING IS REALLY HAPPENING EXCEPT THAT FREEDY IS GETTING MORE AND MORE FUCKED UP AND MARY GETS A BOYFRIENDS AND PAUL KEEPS EVERYONE AWAY AND THE ANIMOSITY IS GROWING BETWEEN THE BAND
76: THE STORY OF FREDDYS SOLO ALBUM HAS TO BE PART OF THE STORY BUT ISNT IT ...THINGS WERE AT ODDS WITH THE BAND...HE MADE A SOLO ALBUM..IT DIDNT WORK...AND THEY GOT BACK TO GETHER...IS THERE ANOTHER IDEA HERE...DID HE LEARN HE NEEDED THEM AND DIDNT WANT TO ...WHST IS THE EMOTIONAL STORY WE ARE GOING TO CONNECT TO HERE
99: THERE WAS A BEAUTIFUL MOMENT IN PETERS SCRIPT WHERE WHEN FREDDY TAKES A WALK AND SEES THAT EVERYONE IN LONDON IS LISTENING TO THE FOOTAGE OF THE LIVE AID CONCERT AND HE REALIZES SOMETHING PROFOUND....AND THE MUSIC OF ALL THE BANDS PLAYS OVER HIM DRESSING DRIVING AND ARRIVING AT THE CONCERT
IT WAS ALSO FABULOUS THE WAY THE AFTER THE CONCERT ENDS HE SAYS THE WRLD FINALLY SAW US WE CAN NEVER QUIT AND THEN YOU GUT TO HIM GETTTING AN AIDS TEST ANDAND THE REST IS.......YOU DONT NEED THE FIVE YEARS LATER AND THE MORGAN DIALOGUE WAS 100 TIMES BETTER WE NEED TO COLLASP TIME AND HAVE OUR LAST IMAGE OF HIM BE AT THAT CONCERT FINALLY SHOWING THE WORLD JUST HOW AMAZING HE WAS.... THERE NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING MYTHIC AND WE HAVE LOST IT
God Save My Queen and God Save My Queen II | Soft Skull Press | http://www.danielnester.com
---
I left Nester's link in because I like his Queen poetry books.
Although this Hollywood person can't type or spell, her critiques don't sound wrong.
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I can't see how they'd do it though. They seem to want to cover the seventies and the eighties. So either it's going to be eight hours long, or it'll be a shallow story that just skims over everything. They need to pick a specific period of just a few years and stick to it, imho. To me, the most interesting story is putting the band together in the first place, but I accept that that isn't true of everybody. The eighties does provide good story-telling potential. But stick there, don't try to do the seventies as well.
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I can't see how they'd do it though.
Agreed. The movie really needs a proper focus instead of wanting to cover the entirety of the band's heyday. Maybe just cover the few years leading up to the Live Aid with the past introduced in flashback, perhaps. There would certainly be enough drama in that period alone - both great highs and great lows.
An origin story kind of a movie would also be interesting, but I'm not sure what event would make a good ending/climax for it?
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It succeeded by having the "climactic scene opening/flashback to return at the end" structure. (Folsom Prison concert was the scene, so you could obviously make LiveAid the scene).
But more importantly, the movie had a theme about Cash's life: He was haunted by his early poverty and loss and rejection, and fame messed up his head and his relationships, until finally he learned to accept God's love and June Carter's love and this made him greater than his mere talent could have.
What is this movie's theme about Freddie's life? Is he a bisexual refugee person of color in UK who transformed himself into an international star of the straight white rock world, which still kept rejecting his disco and opera? That story doesn't sound fun enough for a rock movie. Is it the story of a talented striving immigrant who made it to the top but threw away all his gifts in his pursuit of dirty drugs and dirty sex and so is rightly punished by a deadly disease that cuts short his life, let that be a lesson to you? That hardly sounds like a best seller either, as a movie, though it's a very popular political campaign and sermon. Is he an innocent holy fool genius who was lured away from the love of a good woman by the decadent evil world of rock music, pushing its drugs and penises upon him? But how can rock music be the bad guy when rock music fans are the audience? Is it a story about a bunch of nice boys who started a rock band and then there was an evil manager that got one of them killed? They really don't know what they want to say about Freddie and the more they say they want the truth, the more they bury it, because there is no one truth about a person's life. There are only versions. They need to find a version everyone can live with.
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Success, I suppose. Bo Rhap is probably the most obvious one, as it's the most famous track, and allows the soundtrack to make use of it. It brought huge acclaim, though not lots of money, obviously, until they ditched the management. It was their first #1 as well, which is another big milestone. Probably not a powerful enough story for Hollywood, but the costumes would be great! Imagine the fun recreating some of those early concerts. Plus that line of Freddie's from c. 1970, about how he and Roger had been "poncing and ultrablagging just about everywhere, and have lately been termed a couple of queens". Make of that what you will, Costume Department. ;)